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Old 30 Jul 2009, 19:05   #1
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Unde se termina artisticul si unde incepe genul porno?

E o vorba care spune 'diferenta majora intre porno si artistic e doar o chestiune de cum pui lumina'.

Unde sa fie adevarul? '9 Songs' (Michael Winterbottom, 2004) si 'Imperiul simturilor' (Nagisa Oshima, 1976), de exemplu, sint ele doar niste metode istete si subtile de a introduce porno in filmele de arta? Sau sint filme de arta pe bune?

Eu cred ca e valabila a doua varianta, dar numai pentru un spectator cu discernamant, care vede ce e explicit doar ca un mijloc de a face arta, nu ca un scop.

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Old 30 Jul 2009, 19:52   #2
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Simplu: totul tine de MOTIVATIE, urmatä de MIJLOACE.

Artä: vrei sä spui CEVA despre erotism, cu mijloace explicite.
Artizanat: erotism explicit gratuit, dar lucrat profesionist.
Pornografie: erotism exhibitionist, simplist, rudimentar.
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Old 30 Jul 2009, 23:40   #3
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eu il salut pe IAL Diamond si-l felicit pentru nickul care aduce aminte de scenaristul plecat de la 2 km de Iasi (Ungheni) si ajuns in varful unei cariere fabuloase alaturi de Billie Wilder
sectiunea asta mi-l aduce in minte pe Tinto Brass, un maestru al filmului artistic erotic.
poate voi dezvolta un topic separat dedicat acestui italian iubitor de forme generoase.
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Old 31 Jul 2009, 17:18   #4
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Exemple, exemple

As mai adauga la filmele care au caracter explicit, dar nu intra neaparat sub incidenta 'interzis sub 18 ani' pentru ca nu au caracterul intentionat al filmelor exclusiv pentru adulti (prezentarea explicita si repetata a actului sexual):

Irréversible (Gaspar Noé, 2002)

Ken Park (Larry Clark, Edward Lachman 2002)

Voi mai aduga...

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