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Old 17 Feb 2005, 02:58   #1
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How to tell


They sit in the front row of each discussion with their arms crossed over their chests, smug smiles on their faces. They know all the answers, and they continuously talk them over. They corner the pros in the hallways after the debate is over and launch into long spiels about their future publishing career.

Their entire goal in attending is to prove to everyone out there that they know as much about the field as the pros - that they have done their homework - that they are a part of the inner circle.

The problem is that they never shut up long enough to listen to anyone, and as a result they miss the important information they could have gained, and kill the good-will they could have won.

Yes, they are smart people; I've been talked at by a bunch of 'em. I've been amazed by their erudition - but appalled by their ruthless head-on charges and their utter obliviousness to the fact that the very people they hope to impress are gnawing off the arm they're clutching at the wrist in order to get away from them.

So, if you recognize yourself as being the adult version of the kid in class with his hand always up going "Me, me, me," here are a couple of tips.

Life is not school.

There is no test.

Nobody cares how smart you are - they care how willing you are to treat them like equals.

The art of conversation does not consist of thinking of the next witty thing you're going to say while waiting for the other person to breathe so you can jump in and say it. It consists of actually listening and responding.

If you cannot learn to listen, you will not succeed.


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Old 17 Feb 2005, 03:38   #2
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Doamne, cât de adevärat!
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 03:47   #3
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Re: How to tell

Originally Posted by Airlight:

Nobody cares how smart you are - they care how willing you are to treat them like equals.

The art of conversation does not consist of thinking of the next witty thing you're going to say while waiting for the other person to breathe so you can jump in and say it. It consists of actually listening and responding.

If you cannot learn to listen, you will not succeed.

Airlight, u're the light... But see, this isn't a grown-ups playground... Cum zicea cineva drag mie, kids should play outside...
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 08:49   #4
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Airlight ai ai sfidat un intreg forum plin de oameni de genul celor evidentiati in textul de mai sus.

Sunt oamenii care sunt gata sa traga in tine cu tunuri o mie dar ii numar pe degete pe cei care asculta cu adevarat.

(imi pare rau ca nu avem un emoteicon care bate din palme sau aplauda non-stop) - oricum ti-l dedic...
good job!
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 11:35   #5
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Stiti cine mi-a rämas în minte drept cel mai fascinant CONTRA-EXEMPLU? Opusul total al indivizilor de aceastä facturä, cu atât mai frapant cu cât o lume-ntreagä îl admirä si-l respectä si a consiliat vreo sapte presedinti ai S.U.A. la viata lui? ALVIN TOFFLER! Un causeur incredibil de fermecätor, prietenos, receptiv, stäpân nativ nu numai pe arta dialogului, ci si pe esenta sa. Te ascultä, te întreabä, râde cu poftä la bancurile tale si räspunde cu ale lui, simti cä-l INTERESEAZA ce ai de spus si ca te respectä - e adevärat, e viu, e ACOLO. Incredibil sentiment, sä contezi pe cinci minute de politeturi protocolare cu unul dintre cei mai influenti gânditori ai secolului, si când colo sä te pomenesti cä te invitä sä rämâi la masä, iar dupä o orä jumate pleci cu inima plinä si cu certitudinea cä ti-ai fäcut un PRIETEN. Pur si simplu îti revine pofta de viatä pentru încä vreo zece ani de-atunci încolo.
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 13:11   #6
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O children of the future, conceived in the toilets of Meadowhall to be raised on cheap corn snacks and garage food, rolling empty cans down the stairwell - don't you love that sound? - while the thoughts of a bad social worker run around his head... trying to remember what he learned at training college... "Mister said you wasn't allowed in here, so why don't you get lost?" And if you're good, then when you grow up maybe... maybe you can live... live on Kelvin. Yeah you can live in Kelvin. On the promenade with the concrete walkways, where pigeons go to die.

"A woman on the 14th floor noticed that her ceiling was bulging, as if under a great weight. When the council investigated, they discovered that the man in the flat above had transported a large quantity of soil into his living room, in which several plants he had stolen from the local park were growing. When questioned, the man said all he wanted was a garden."

"When questioned, the man said all he wanted was a garden."

O God, I think the future has been deep fried, deep fried in Kelvin, and now it's rotting behind the remains of a stolen motorbike (I never touched it, honest... well, there wasn't anything else to do). We don't need your sad attempts at social conscience based on taxi-rides home at night from exhibitions. We just want your car radio, and those reflex speakers. Now. Suffer the little children to come unto me, and I will tend their adventure playground splinters and cigarette burns, and feed them fizzy orange and chips, that they may grow up straight and tall, that they may grow up to live on Kelvin.

Oh yeah, we can have ghettos too, only we use air rifles instead of machine guns. Stitch that. And we drink Diamond White. In the end, the question you have to ask yourself is: are you talking to me, or are you chewing a brick?
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 13:41   #7
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.astfel de "profunzimi" apartin ratatilor. daca vrei egalitate trebuie sa-ti ridici stacheta, nu sa o cobori pe a celorlalti.
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 14:00   #8
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Nightwane topicul e How to tell, nu How to sell.
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 15:32   #9
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silent applause pentru articolul de mai sus.
ce mi-a placut ca 'nu conteaza de unde'.
atat.
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 18:13   #10
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Originally Posted by Airlight:
Nightwane topicul e How to tell, nu How to sell

How to tell your ass from your elbow

am bagat chestia aia acolo pt. ca imi place cum suna si cum e scrisa. Crucify me if you don't like it.
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 18:31   #11
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imi place.

e tezista, da-mi place.

sa zicem atunci ca e un insight 'din partea cealalta..'

'how to tell' adica cum ii putem diferentia - caci o facem, desi nimeni nu o spune.
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 21:07   #12
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Originally Posted by raptor:
.astfel de "profunzimi" apartin ratatilor. daca vrei egalitate trebuie sa-ti ridici stacheta, nu sa o cobori pe a celorlalti.

Amin.
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Old 17 Feb 2005, 22:49   #13
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frumos dar nu are nici o aplicabilitate in real life...
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Old 18 Feb 2005, 00:37   #14
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I think you're living two lifes, mr. Anderson...
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Old 18 Feb 2005, 01:02   #15
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Originally Posted by Jay:
frumos dar nu are nici o aplicabilitate in real life...

it does, if you'd try to listen.
mi-a placut mult. mersi.
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Old 18 Feb 2005, 01:36   #16
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si cand asculti prostii sau cacaturi ce faci? Le asculti ca doar vrei sa fii dragut and stuff... ce dracu? fi realist... daca iti place ceea ce auzi asculti, daca nu ... te cari dracu si te duci si te plimbi prin parc... what a bunch of shit....
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Old 18 Feb 2005, 02:01   #17
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in general sunt realist... numai in ultimul timp am cam dat-o in idealisme...hehe
ai dreptate... but this thing applies only if you want to start a discussion. daca nhu te intereseaza de la inceput discutia, pai atunci da-o-n colo. nu te bagi. dar daca vrei sa discuti (a nu se amesteca cu 'a injura') cu cineva, atunci stai si-l asculti... altfel, nu are nici un rost. cam despre asta e vorba.
p.s. nu te supara din nou pe mine... n-are rost.
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NU ma supar pe nimeni, stai linistit... ...
by the way nu-mi vine sa cred ca au cenzurat si cacatur i.... el o el
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lol... m-am si intrebat ce injuratura lunga ai folosit in cuvantul ala... hehehe. pai a bagat nume frica in eie. acuma fiecare cuvant care suna mai fecal este cenzurat direct.
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Pentru ca tot suntem la cum se spune am sa va spun si eu pointu' cu jointu', pe o limba care-mi este draga pentru raposatul STUDIO X (cine stie cunoaste). Nu de alta, dar vad ca va intreceti la greu in a posta in limbi ... straine:
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